Again, i apologize for the namecalling, it was uncalled for and stupid.
Agreeing to disagree is probably best. :-)
With those enthousiastic kids i meant the entire modern metalcore/deathcore/suicide silence worship/whateveryouwannacallit movement, not just the bands incorperating beats and electronics, by the way. And i fully agree that a lot of those bands aren’t very good. But there also are a lot of hardcore bands that aren’t very good, so yeah…
I guess I’m basicly an old guy who’s sick and tired of heaving to defend that A Day To Remember is one of his fav current bands. ;-)
I would also agree with DOGHEAD about the thing “speaking your mind”. Even though you have radically different opinions, it’s always important to have a discussion about it. At least when you’re discussing something anyhow. That notion is fading away quicker and quicker unfortunately.
These bands aren’t hardcore and no one (including themselves) calls them hardcore. I understand why one doesn’t like these bands (musicwise, lyricswise and mentalitywise) as I also understand why the general person doesn’t like hardcore. That’s merely a matter of taste.
Also, these bands are part of a different scene (can’t imagine these bands on the same bill as let’s say Trapped Under Ice) and imho you’re seeing ghosts if you think these bands are a threat to the current “true” hardcore scene and all that it stands for. Therefore, I can’t understand why you would be upset (even in the slightest way) about these bands. Although these bands and hardcore bands share a common ancestor somewhere in music history, they’re are as closely related to eachother as humans are to rabbits.
Does Flo Rida also make you mildy irritated? Do you also get it on your tits when Rihanna is on?
Jan said: Also, these bands are part of a different scene (can’t imagine these bands on the same bill as let’s say Trapped Under Ice) and imho you’re seeing ghosts if you think these bands are a threat to the current “true” hardcore scene and all that it stands for. Therefore, I can’t understand why you would be upset (even in the slightest way) about these bands. Although these bands and hardcore bands share a common ancestor somewhere in music history, they’re are as closely related to eachother as humans are to rabbits.
I’m not even “in the scene”. I just think it’s bad music and I don’t think we’re better off today then we were decades ago. Because I wouldn’t know.
Jan said: Does Flo Rida also make you mildy irritated? Do you also get it on your tits when Rihanna is on?
I don’t tend to look it up. But why would it matter to you?
I’m not even “in the scene”. I just think it’s bad music and I don’t think we’re better off today then we were decades ago. Because I wouldn’t know.
Did you read the first part of my previous post?
The Invisible Guy said:
Jan said: [...]
I don’t tend to look it up. But why would it matter to you?
It doesn’t (and shouldn’t) matter to me. But I guess you don’t tend to look up trancecore bands aswell? Then why would it matter to you if other people like those kind of bands?
Was so bummed when I went to a rave here in town back in the nineties where Elstak came and he didn’t bring Sadie.
He also did a PussyLounge party together with DarkRaver in a local disco here once. Elstak, DarkRaver playing al sorts of Bonzaii classics. AND strippers. Oh what a night.
But to be honest, I was more a Charlie Lownoise & Mental Theo guy. Wonderful Days, most ass kicking song of the 90′s
hahaha omg…i always hated that whole happy hardcore thing….back in 94 it had to be hard!
i loved those djs who used hardcorepunk samples….me in my cro mags shirt and an Australian :s
Pim said: They call it gabber / hardcore (yes..) over here ;)
So calling these bands ‘hardcore’ makes some sense maybe? ;)
Im not known for my good taste in music, I enjoyed parkwaydrive shows in the past and I can see why people find these bands amusing or whatever. But this has really nothing to do with hardcore imo.
too much words to read it all, really like the Oil reference though ;-)
I do think it is very funny that every generation of hc kids has the same ‘music/message’ discussion. I too had that discussion number of times and have come to the conclusion that there is no true definition of hardcore that counts for everyone. It is just a matter of taste, and you can’t argue with taste.
If, however, there are kids out there who call shitty-clean-vocals-mosh* hardcore and for that reason get into older hardcore, I salute that. I don’t think we should choose who gets in our little club, it should be all-accessible…
Pim 4 months, 2 weeks ago.
