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Robertus 6 months, 3 weeks ago.
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heartless said:
Stephen was on the prowl as usual. After throwing a full can across the venue which crashed against the wall in between the light -and sound guys,the show stopped quite abrubtly after the last 2 songs and the soundguy was pretty pissed off seeing him closing the curtains and everybody had to get out asap. fitting end i guess…Why the hell venues/people still put up with that bullshit is totally beyond me…shit band, shit attitude. (And no, i’m not gonna tell that to Stephan’s face.
)Just Killing Time said:
heartless said:
Stephen was on the prowl as usual. After throwing a full can across the venue which crashed against the wall in between the light -and sound guys,the show stopped quite abrubtly after the last 2 songs and the soundguy was pretty pissed off seeing him closing the curtains and everybody had to get out asap. fitting end i guess…Why the hell venues/people still put up with that bullshit is totally beyond me…shit band, shit attitude. (And no, i’m not gonna tell that to Stephan’s face.
)Well, when it comes to Kickback, it kinda comes with the whole act and it’s part of the charm of the band…given the reputation/legend you have to expect some stupid violence throughout the show.
I actually was, weirdly, disappointed by the lack of violence/insults from the band on saturday haha
But then, the first time i saw them they spent their whole set avoiding mud being thrown at them by the “irritated” audience hahahaQuote:
Why the hell venues/people still put up with that bullshit is totally beyond me…shit band, shit attitude. (And no, i’m not gonna tell that to Stephan’s face. )My thoughts exactly.. I guess eventually he’ll wind up hitting a large bad ass in the crowd or some venue-crew with enough muscle will beat the shit out of him some day. Kickback.. what’s in a name.
As for the ‘it’s part of the whole act’ argument.. putting up an act is far from what I appreciate in bands, or people in general for that matter. Especially when you’re being called ‘friend’ twice in one minute while buying two t-shirts from Stephen at his car. At least if he would have tried to rip me off and was rude as on stage it would seem real to me. I believe their tuff though, without a doubt, just not when you have money in your hands.
Forever War will always be one of the very best albums in my collection and has inspired me a great deal, still to this day. But as for this act.. no thanks. Hence, some mixed feelings.
The fact they let me down because they had a band argument just before departure in Paris when I (thought I) had them headlining my show years ago kind of was the last straw for me in supporting them like I did earlier.
He has been beaten the shit out of him before, but the thing is: he doesn’t care.
And as far as the act goes: I think it’s a way to stay relevant. Look at this thread, we are talking about their attitude and stuff. So, some people might read it and check them out on shows out of curioisty (“is it really thad bad?”).
I don’t care a lot if they want to be assholes. In fact, a show like Tilburg, with that atmosphere, it does something to me. I mean, you can go to a Crawlspace, Nasty or some other beatdown-like band, and you know shit like fights can happen or that it can be very hard in the pit. But with Kickback, at some shows, you have the feeling like they can come after you in person any time. It’s not a pleasant feeling, but it contributes to the whole image. And from time to time, I like a dirty, fucked up and filthy atmosphere like that. It puts you back with your feet on the ground
For the music: the older things like Forever War are cool albums, but don’t do that much to me. No Surrender is the contrairy. At first I didn’t get it, I had the feeling they were trying to push boundaries too far and tried to hard to make something different. But after a while I got it. Now it’s one of my favourite records of all time. So hard, so difficult, so much hate and anger. “Et Le Diable…” even goes a step further. Not the cd you put on while doing a road trip in the sun. But the energy, the atmosphere it brings on. Just wow…
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I think it’s a way to stay relevant. Look at this thread, we are talking about their attitude and stuff. So, some people might read it and check them out on shows out of curioisty (“is it really thad bad?”).Dennis said:
..but it contributes to the whole image.That’s exactly my point
Putting up an act to build an image sucks to me. If that’s what you need to get people curious it’s pretty sad. Why they think they need it (if they do) I don’t understand as they’re always ahead of their time and other bands.The Sheer Terror reference then reminds me of a band that’s also not very positive, but remain themselves.
Nasty reminds me of the worst bandnames topic I will post in later
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